On Friday, 26 June 1998, I was summoned to the office of the pastor (Pastor Chris Brock) of the AOG Cairns Christian Centre (Cairns, NQ, Australia) and in the presence of the church board was disfellowshipped, being told that when the meeting was concluded I was to leave and not return as I was unwelcome in the assembly. I had in company with me a faithful brother in Christ (Bob Adamson) whom I had, over the last couple of months, made aware of false teaching coming forth from the pulpit of our church via the mouth of the pastor and the many visiting ministries that have been invited, by pastor, to our church. Bob counted it a blessing to be reviled for Christ's sake, with me, in the presence of the leaders of our church and was disfellowshipped with me. I have been a member of the congregation for 14 years (five of those on staff at the church/school) and my friend, Bob, for about 10 years.

Our crime was that we thought it more important to defend the truth of God's Word and to warn our brothers and sisters of wolves among the flock than to obey and submit to a pastor who thought it more important to defend the leaders of the Faith Movement and the Toronto/Pensacola outpourings. Even though the obvious errors, such as our Redemption being accomplished by Christ's spiritual death in Hell, were tendered for our defense, the pastor and board members accused us of being divisive, slandering honourable men of God and of being disobedient to leadership, so therefore, they considered the church a better place without us. Even pointing out that submission to leadership is conditional upon sound doctrine being promoted (among other things) seemed to have no bearing in the matter. It is evident that unconditional submission to the pastor holds more weight than Biblical truth being defended in the AOG church today. We are living in perilous days, of which the Bible clearly warns, so they are without excuse.

On the following Sunday (June 28), according to a number of people who have the same conviction for truth as we do, I was summarily denounced from the pulpit, and named, so that everyone would know who the person was that had been such a bother to the pastor, thwarting his plans of revival for the two years that he has been leader of our congregation. Fear tactics, including prophecies of death upon myself, my wife and my friends, did not deter my commitment to stand against the introduction of the flow of the Toronto and Pensacola Rivers into our congregation, so it was obvious that I would eventually have to go. My only complaint of being denounced from the refuge of the pulpit is that a lot of the congregation would have been absent from the meeting due to school holidays and now I will have to fill them in on what is going on personally. The matter, of course, has not ended and I will continue to expose the error to the many friends that we still have in the fellowship, with much more freedom than I previously enjoyed.

The reason I am contacting you is to inform you that, along with me, you were also denounced from the pulpit of Cairns Christian Centre by pastor Chris Brock, last Sunday, as a very dangerous person to the Body of Christ. Apparently you are also guilty of tearing down the body of Christ and viciously attacking honourable gentlemen in leadership.

[I was interested to know who you were and] I asked [a few of my friends] if any of them knew of you. We all agreed that the name [Philip Powell] rang a bell but we were not sure who you were. We needed to check out who you were and why you were being reviled along with myself. On the following day, one of [my friends] received your May '98 issue of Vanguard, unexpectedly, in the mail from a friend down south. God always provides the information at the right time I have found. I found your Web site, and upon checking, I found a photograph of you. I recognized you as the person who introduced Jacob Prasch on a video that I have (Nazarene Church, Hamilton, NZ. 23/08/95). I also found that you have links to Moriel and Berean Call. I read some of your articles, including the letter from the AOG church that has defected, coming to the conclusion that you are on the Lord's side in this call to faithfulness in defending Truth. We count it an honour to be in such esteemed company as the former General Secretary of the AOG in Australia. It gives us great hope to know that there are pockets of sanity remaining. We encourage you in your stand.

For two years I have been trying to convince the pastor that it is Biblical to name the names of false teachers, and anyone else who is a danger to the Body. He has always denied this is a requirement from the Lord. Of course, we know why. However, on the Friday night meeting with the board, I used Galatians 2:11 as one of the Scriptures to substantiate naming the names of people who would lead the people of God astray. The pastor and the board still denied that I was Scripturally correct because I hadn't personally been to the people that I have been naming over the last couple of years - people like Copeland, Hinn, Hickey, Hagin, Meyer etc. However, the pastor used my argument from Galatians 2:11 to validate his naming of me from the pulpit, on Sunday, in front of the whole congregation, arguing that he had been to me personally which gave him Scriptural support for his actions. The hypocrisy of it is that he also named you without approaching you personally first. Perhaps I am wrong and he has been to see you, or am I right in supposing that he is only repeating what he has been told by his superiors? Their agenda is under pressure! I would appreciate your response to whether he has actually approached you or not. Perhaps it will be of use to convince some of the ones we wish to reach that he is a hypocrite when it comes to consistently applying the Word to a situation.

&quotBlessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets." (Luke 6:22-23).

&quotIf you faint in the day of adversity, your strength being small; if you hold back from rescuing those taken away to death, those who go staggering to the slaughter; if you say, &quotLook, we did not know this"-- does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it? And will he not repay all according to their deeds?" (Prov 24:10-12 NRSV)

God bless you as you stand for Him and care enough to rescue those staggering to the slaughter.

Hughie Seaborn
2/290 Buchan Street
Westcourt Qld 4870
Australia.

rseaborn@ozemail.com.au

The following document was written in response to both my disfellowshipping from the AOG assembly in Cairns, North Queensland, Australia, on Friday night, 26th June, 1998, and the 'message' that was 'preached' to the congregation on the following Sunday morning (28th June), denouncing me and accusing me of all manner of un-Godly activity against the cause of our Lord Jesus Christ.

A copy of this document was also sent to each of the eight board members of Cairns Christian Centre who were present at the meeting of Friday night, 26th of June, and who supported the decision to disfellowship myself and my brother in the Lord, Bob Adamson. I have not included their names here for the whole world to see because I believe some of them will come to a knowledge of the truth and realise the awful situation they have allowed themselves to become involved in. My prayer is that they will either influence their 'leader' to return to sound doctrine or depart from his company as they are clearly commanded to by the Holy Scriptures.

Pastor Chris Brock,
Senior Pastor,
Cairns Christian Centre,
Brinsmead Road,
Brinsmead, Q. 4870.

Wednesday, July 22, 1998

Dear Pastor Brock,

I acknowledge receipt of your letter, which I received 15th July, 1998, advising me that my membership at Cairns Christian Centre has been withdrawn. I am disappointed though, that you have not pointed out on my Termination Notice the reason for my membership being withdrawn. I request that you send me another one that outlines the details and gives the reasons for your actions please.

I have taken the time to listen to your message of Sunday 28th June, 1998, which was preached in response to the disfellowshipping of myself and my brother in Christ, Bob Adamson, from the assembly. I would suggest a title for your message as, &quotRipped And Torn To Shreds In The House Of God."

There are a number of things that I would like to contend in your message, but before I do, I will commend you for actually doing what I have been urgently pleading for you to do for the last couple of years. You have actually stood up in the congregation and warned the people about another person that you, as their leader, rightly or wrongly, consider a danger to their continuing walk with the Lord. Praise the Lord! I thank God that you have finally been obedient to the Scriptures in this matter.

The question has to be asked though, why don't you now do the same with the likes of the many false teachers who, you have been informed, are influencing the members of our congregation and the direction of Christendom today? No doubt, you will continue to say that it is my interpretation of what they are preaching that is wrong, or else you will plead the Scripture that you have used to denounce me in front of my friends and say that you have not been to them personally, therefore you have no right to expose them, as you have been instructing me for the last couple of years. We must go to them first, you say, and challenge them personally about their dangerous heresies before denouncing them publicly. Is that what you still believe, or have you changed your doctrine since the meeting where you, and the board of Cairns Christian Centre, disfellowshipped myself and Bob Adamson?

Which brings me to the contentions that I have with the message you preached on the following Sunday.

One, You are guilty of hypocrisy, Pastor!

At the end of side one of your taped message you preached,

&quotFolks, what this one thing this movement does that is coming and is upon us now is the fact that they deny the very principles of love, and they're tearing... tearing to pieces men and women that cannot even defend themselves. They're not going to them as in Scripture......."

On side two, toward the end of your message, you preached,

&quotPaul went to Peter and he spoke to him face to face. He didn't hide in some corner somewhere and tear someone to shreds in a huddle in some little home."

You will have to agree, from Scripture, that hypocrisy was the very thing that Paul challenged Peter about in Galatians 2:13-14.

And the other Jews joined him (Peter) in this hypocrisy, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. But when I saw that they were not acting consistently with the truth of the gospel.....

In your message, along with myself, you also tore down, from the safety of your pulpit, the reputation and Godly character of another Christian, namely Philip Powell. You, very vehemently, attacked and tore to shreds this man and judged him as an enemy of Christ. You did the very thing to this man that you have been accusing me of doing to the Faith Movement teachers, who are proven teachers of heresy. You are guilty of tearing down, ripping to shreds, undermining, slandering and criticizing the ministry of an honourable man whose only crime, like mine, is defending the truth of the Word of God. He, like me, is not accused by you, or anyone else, of wrongly dividing the Word of Truth and leading the church astray, but of daring to speak out about the teachings of the Faith Movement in violation of the wishes of yourself and most of the rest of the leadership of the AOG movement.

Did you go to this man first, as you have said, in front of your board, and now, before the entire congregation, that I should have done to the Faith Movement teachers? No you did not!!! In the exact same manner that you have accused me of, you have torn a man to shreds and castigated him without going to him first with your complaint, or even allowing him to be present to defend himself. Your hypocrisy, Pastor, has ensnared you! Let's at least be consistent when applying Scripture to a given situation. But then, perhaps you will excuse your actions by supposing that other people, with the same beliefs and convictions as you, have already spoken to Philip Powell, challenging him on what he is doing. However, this would not validate your actions either. A great many trained theologians (AOG included) have personally challenged the Faith Movement teachers yet, by your theology, that still gives me no right to warn my brothers and sisters in the Body of the Faith Movement's dangerous beliefs.

To illustrate your hypocrisy further, you have chastised me, in my absence, for naming ministries that are not present to defend themselves. Have you never done this? I have been to many seminars conducted in our church that have been held with the express purpose of exposing the wrong doctrines of the Jehovah's Witness and Mormon movements. I am not against exposing the doctrines of these people. I believe it should be done for the protection of the church, but you have laid the rules for me that say we should never warn our brothers and sisters of wrong teaching nor should we point out who is responsible for wrong teaching. Can you not see that your theology in this area is both ludicrous and dangerous to the people in your pastoral care? By the way, in my opinion, I believe the doctrine being lavished upon the unsuspecting by the Faith Movement to be as bad as, if not worse, than that of either the JW's or Mormons.

While on the subject of Philip Powell, you failed to mention to the congregation that he is not just some small time, insignificant, misguided, person like myself. You didn't let on that he just happens to be the former General Secretary of the AOG in Australia (1989-1992). You should have mentioned that he is a graduate of the Assemblies of God Bible College in Australia where he graduated as head student of his year. He has pastored a number of churches, including one in the U.K. for 16 years. He is an academic, in other words and &quothe has the runs on the board" to borrow your phrase. He is a servant of God who, no doubt, is able to think for himself and to analyse a situation. This paints a very different picture to the person that you named along side myself. He is not just some kind of 'lone ranger' Christian who has gone off the rails doing his own thing. Nor is he an isolated case of some reprobate who has an axe to grind with personalities. He is contending for the Faith as he has been instructed to do, by God, in Jude 3.

You also failed to mention that part of the literature that Philip Powell is distributing in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom, that is such a distress to the AOG leadership in Australia, is a copy of a letter to the State and National Executive of the AOG concerning the withdrawal of an entire AOG church (Pastor, Board and Congregation) from the AOG movement due to their alarming discovery of the influence of false teachers upon the AOG congregations and of increasing apostasy, perversions and foolishness being promoted by AOG leadership, both here in Australia and overseas. They are only one of a growing group of AOG fellowships that have obeyed the Scripture in Romans 16:17-18 which instructs us,

&quotMark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (fleshly appetites); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."

Something is amiss in the movement that you will not be able to conceal from the members of the congregation for very much longer. In the name of unity, there is apostasy, corruption and outright dishonesty being hushed up by leaders in the AOG who, in their pride and arrogance, think they are above receiving direction - especially direction from some un-influential, nondescript person sitting upon the pews. However, God promises that He will make all things known, and then the people will have their God given right to make a choice for themselves, which is the very thing you are attempting to deny them.

Two, You have misled the people with your message by insinuating that it was yourself, and the board of Cairns Christian Centre, who have striven with me in an attempt to correct me and put me on the right path. You have also misrepresented me as unapproachable and unteachable. You emotively stated,

&quotIt is of great sadness to us and this Board. We have tried to talk to him. We have come together as a Board with him. We have.... he will not change...." &quotI have tried and I've tried and I've tried to give this man room but he will not change his ways."

What are you suggesting, Pastor? You know yourself that not once, in the few communications that I did manage to have with you, did you ever instigate dialogue. In fact, you avoided me. Not once, in my attempts to reveal to you what I believe God to be warning the Church, did you present my concerns to the board for their prayerful consideration, let alone discussion with me. You took it upon yourself to withhold the information that I have from the members of the board and the congregation, your excuse being that the information I had was divisive. Yes, the truth of God's Word is always divisive - it separates light and darkness, truth and falsehood, the holy from the profane, life from death. Our commission is to present the truth and then let God's Word do the rest. We are not called to cover up and defend the workers of iniquity in some misguided quest for unity.

My first letter to you, dated 14th October, 1996, informing you of my concerns was not even acknowledged.

On the 23rd October, 1996, I delivered to your office my book which contains the prophecies of warning that the Lord imparted to me in 1986, 1988 and 1995. The interpretations of the symbols in the prophecies are cause for great alarm and urgency, and yet still I heard nothing from you.

On the 5th December, 1996, after many attempts to contact you by phone, I finally spoke to you and you informed me that you had not read any part of the book because of your workload with the school. You also stated that you might pass the book on to some other person to check my theology??? Somehow, you had twisted things around to suppose that my theology needed to be checked when I was actually presenting for your consideration, blatant heresies that were being propagated by the Faith Movement teachers. I am not against you or anyone else checking my theology and I am open to correction and guidance, but it must be based upon the truth of God's Word. However, I agreed that would be fine. At least, I thought, you would get to read what was bothering me.

Two weeks later on 13th December, 1996, having still not heard from anyone and after a number of attempts to contact you by phone, I was able to speak to you once again, and at that time you informed me that you might get a chance over the Christmas break to have a look at my concerns. I pointed out to you that it was now twelve months since I had first raised my concerns with church leadership, I had clear evidence of heresy infiltrating into our fellowship, and yet it was being brushed off as unimportant.

I confessed to you my frustrations at the lack of response to my plea for you to at least look at what I was presenting. You then asked me what were my intentions if you did not read my book to which I said that, because of the urgency of the matter I would probably have to begin warning members of the congregation myself. Your answer was that, as senior pastor of Cairns Christian Centre, you could not allow me to go to the people, once again stating that it would cause a division. You confessed to me that when you came to Cairns the previous year there was a serious division in the congregation because of the Toronto Blessing and you had just got that ironed out. You didn't want me going to the people with the information I had because it would re-open the controversy.

Finally, in February of 1997, you agreed to meet with me and discuss my concerns, at which time you again warned me not to speak to any members of the congregation. You stated that there would be division if I divulged the information that I had.

At this meeting you assured me that you would address my concerns of wrong teaching infiltrating the church by introducing teaching sessions for adults prior to the Sunday morning services. This you implemented, but the promotion of false teaching and false teachers continued.

On 21st June, 1997, I again wrote to you with further evidence to support my claims that something was wrong. I provided tapes of the actual recordings of some of the heresies of the false teachers - teachers who now had an audience within our congregation. Included, recorded for you to hear, were death threats upon the people (including their children) who would dare to question the theology of the Faith Movement teachers. I urgently asked that you would share what I had given you with the board and school leadership. No answer from you. My numerous phone calls to you were ignored.

Toward the end of July, by accident (arranged by God), you came to my door when intending to visit my mother. You expressed confusion when you discovered that I live next door to my mother, in a duplex. I was able to share with you my frustrations at not being able to contact you on this matter of great urgency and you agreed to meet with me at the conclusion of my mother's visit.

At this meeting in my home, I again revealed evidence of heresy being allowed free access to the members of our congregation. I was told that it was not Biblical to reveal the teachings, or the names, of false teachers without first having been to them personally and warning them. You reiterated that the Sunday morning teaching sessions would counter the wrong teachings that I had drawn attention to. Because the situation was becoming more urgent as time progressed, I disagreed with you that we should not warn the members of the congregation of the wrong teaching that God was warning of. It was now more than 18 months that I had been attempting to sound an alarm only to be shackled and gagged. You asked me what I intended to do about it and I informed you that, because of the lack of response to my concerns by yourself and the leadership of the church, it was unfortunate but, if I saw or heard one of my brothers or sisters in the Lord being influenced by false teachers, I would warn them. Your departing words to me as you walked across my front lawn were, that you could not allow me to do that.

As you are well aware, Pastor, there has been no other dialogue between us since our meeting in July last year. That was It - end of story!!!

The question that has to be asked, and appropriately responded to is, &quotHow is it that you can stand before the congregation and, in the presence of the Holy and Almighty God, intentionally manipulate the thinking of the unaware to insinuate that it was you, along with the board, that have &quottried and tried and tried" so patiently and pleadingly with me to attempt to bring me around into your way of thinking?"

My only communication with the board of Cairns Christian Centre was on Friday, 26th June, 1998, (two and a half years after first raising my concerns) when it was decided, among yourselves, that you would excommunicate me - knowing full well that I would not deny the Scriptures that command us to expose the deeds of darkness and to have no fellowship with those that preach a Gospel contrary to the one given to us in the written Word of God.

For nearly twelve months you have ignored me, hoping that I would just go away. But I can't just go away, Pastor, because God has revealed something to me that He has instructed me to share with yourself, as the senior Pastor, the board and the members of the congregation. You yourself know that we are commissioned to obey the voice of the Lord as He instructs us through the Scriptures. The voice of the Lord has spoken to me, and He has also spoken to yourself and your board where He has said,

&quotIf you faint in the day of adversity, your strength being small; if you hold back from rescuing those taken away to death, those who go staggering to the slaughter; if you say, &quotLook, we did not know this" - does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it? And will he not repay all according to their deeds?"

The wolves, that the Scriptures repeatedly warn will come in the last days, are now among the sheep. Not everybody will recognize them, the Scriptures inform us, because they will be disguised as sheep. In fact, again according to Scripture, a great multitude will be deceived by them. Servants of Satan transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness, coming upon the Church of God, in great number, in the closing of the age, drawing the children of God away with stories they have made up. God reveals wolves disguised as sheep to certain people who, quite annoyingly, upset the beautiful and peaceful day in the sheep fold by consistently yelling at the top of their voices, exposing the wolves to the unwary sheep grazing blissfully in the sunlight.

You say it is un-Biblical for a watchman to sound a warning. Not according to my Bible it isn't. And not according to yours either. You have an agenda, Pastor, and you are promoting it by sitting in fellowship with those whom God has expressly warned that you should have nothing to do with. Stand with me before the Lord on that Day, Pastor, and there argue your case for your contribution to the great end-time multitude who are being led astray by false teachers into apostasy and deception.

Turning people from error is no trivial matter. It is bound up with the severest of consequences - saving a soul from death.

James 5:1-20. &quotBrethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins."

You say it is not my business, I don't have authority to perform this ministry and warn people. As I said to you before, I agree that it was not my job, it was yours, but you are not doing it, so the Lord has to call someone who can hear His call and obey Him. I'm willing to suffer the consequences for my brother's and sister's souls. One of your own staff has already suggested that I should find something beneficial to do for the Body of Christ. Saving a few of the 'saved' from the death of their souls will do me, thank you.

Please note in the above Scripture reference that James doesn't qualify that the 'someone' has to be an ordained pastor in some denomination. It just has to be 'someone' who is sober, vigilant and discerning enough to see that the wandering brother or sister has been influenced by wrong teaching.

Three, You did not inform my brothers and sisters in the Lord as to why I can no longer submit to the leadership of Cairns Christian Centre. You have made it to look as though I have a problem with personalities and do not recognize valid leadership in the Church of Jesus Christ. As you personally know, nothing is further from the truth. My problem is not with personalities or submission to leadership, but with support and propagation of false teachers and heresy going unchallenged by AOG leadership, on a local and global scale.

My problem is doctrinal, as you well know, and you should have made the church aware of that. To sarcastically put it that you would have to submit before me and say, "'What can I preach and what can I teach and what can I do and what can't I do?' Because they seem to be the only ones with the answers", is dishonestly misleading and ludicrous. Never have I ever challenged you as to what you can or cannot preach. My request to you has always been about the evidence of wrong teaching being foisted upon the unsuspecting members of the congregation, a request that is defendable from the Word of God.

Nowhere does my Bible tell me that Jesus was defeated upon the cross of Calvary. Nowhere does my Bible mention that Jesus was dragged into Hell to suffer torment at the hands of Satan and his demons for three terrible days and nights to secure my redemption. Nowhere does my Bible inform me that Abel could have redeemed mankind because he was a righteous man. Nowhere in all my reading and studying of the Scriptures can I discover one single verse that would give me the right to think that even I, myself, could have redeemed mankind because I am a born-again man just as Jesus is. Nowhere in all my reading and studying of the Scriptures can I discover one single verse that would cause me to think that, somehow, I am on a par with the righteous and sinless Son of God. What foolishness in the House of our God!!! What blasphemy, what prostitution being conducted by the so called 'bride of Christ'!!!

But there are certain men and women who have crept in, unawares, who say that all these things are so. They have made the blasphemous claims and they belong to a certain group, Pastor, called the Faith Movement. And Scripture repeatedly warns us that these people will come in the last days just prior to the Rapture of the Saints into Glory and the revealing of Anti-Christ to begin his seven years of absolute terror upon the nation of Israel and the rest of the world, which will include professing Christians who 'received not the truth' of the Word of God, and so, were deceived. These false teachers, and they are now upon us in great number as warned in Scripture, will be promoting doctrines of demons, preaching messages to tickle the itching ears of the unsuspecting, proclaiming false prophecies to lead astray the Saints from the sure foundation of the Salvation they received, a Salvation which is based upon the Truth of the Gospel being accepted and then vigourously possessed and contended for.

You are setting up a straw man of 'submission' so that you can kick him to pieces, to the delight of the frenzied crowd. You hope this will successfully distract the onlookers from seeing the real issue.

In our meeting with the board (26/06/98), both myself and Bob Adamson were aggressively challenged as to whether we were prepared to come under your authority and accept the leadership of Cairns Christian Centre. We told you that we would be prepared to support your leadership if you would be prepared to make known the dangerous teachings of the Faith Movement to the unsuspecting members of the congregation. This you were not willing to do. Our Biblical request was not acceptable to you, or the board members. I contended with yourself, and your board, that unconditional submission to leadership has no precedent in the Word of God, your response being to read Hebrews 13:17 to us, which says,

Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.

However, I pointed out to you that you had failed to read the passage in context as verse 7 clearly shows that submission to leadership is conditional upon the Word of God, the Logos, being promoted - and that the leader you submit to must walk according to the Gospel and not be carried away by strange doctrines. Your support of, and promotion of, and unwillingness to reveal, ministries that walk in un-Godliness, promoting strange doctrines, precluded our being able to come under your leadership, or the leadership of those on the board who support your ideals and the promoters of heresy. Jesus' defeat upon the Cross of Calvary is a strange doctrine! Sitting in the crypts upon the graves of dead women to get their anointing and then conversing with them in apparitions is expressly forbidden in Scripture and, therefore, is also strange doctrine! Should I name him? Should I warn my brothers and sisters in Christ that Benny Hinn, whom you promote as a Godly and honourable man, is involved in necromancy (conversing with the spirits of dead people), the very thing that King Saul was involved in the day before he met his death. Because he is grossly deceived Benny Hinn sees nothing wrong with necromancy and conversing with apparitions of dead women and he has proudly revealed these experiences supposing it will make him look more spiritual to the masses.

Why are you endorsing this man, Pastor? Why are you not warning your congregation of his dangerous practices? You say that you are not aware of these things. But I offered to make you aware, along with the board and along with my brothers and sisters in the congregation and you told me, in your own words, in front of them all to, &quotSHUT UP!!!"

Because we were not prepared to deny the Word of God, which we would have to do to come under your authority, we were asked to leave and not return as we were not welcome at Cairns Christian Centre.

You should have made this clear to the congregation in your very emotional and misleading message on the following Sunday morning.

But don't you feel too bad about this situation because I have a Scripture for you, Pastor, and for the members of the board. Listen to the words of the Lord Jesus Himself, who says to myself and to Bob Adamson and to Phil Powell and to the many others who are not prepared to compromise for the sake of being accepted or for the sake of our jobs or for the sake of a false unity. Listen to the prophetic words of Jesus that come down through the ages to these last days and comfort the despised. Listen to the voice of the One who redeemed us through the death of His Body on a Cross and the shedding of His Blood.

&quotBlessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets."

I count it a blessing to be reviled from your pulpit and castigated and torn to shreds and kicked out of your church for the Son of Man's sake.

Four, I feel I must comment upon the above-mentioned challenge with regard to your leadership that was issued to myself and Bob Adamson during our Friday night meeting of 26th June, with yourself and the board.

Pastor Terry Gould made the challenge, after our fruitless effort to get you to protect the congregation from Faith Movement teaching. His statement was that it all came down to whether we were prepared to submit to your leadership. We assured him we would submit to your leadership if you were willing to expose the truth of what the Faith Movement leaders were teaching. Teachings that have been proven to be heretical. Pastor Gould didn't think that was good enough and angrily suggested that there were no qualifications to submission to leadership in the Body of Christ.

Upon my questioning his understanding on this matter, he said to me that he would always respect your wisdom in these contentious issues because you, as the Senior Pastor, have a communication with God, through the Holy Spirit, that we as ordinary members in the congregation do not enjoy. I questioned Pastor Gould again on the matter and he reaffirmed his belief that the Pastor of the church has understanding through a special relationship with the Holy Spirit that we mere mortals don't have. Pastor David Angliss, who obviously has a bit more grace and maturity, attempted to bring a bit of damage control by pointing out to me that the Pastor has a special anointing from God for leadership.

As I replied, I can go along with someone having an anointing to perform some role in the Body of Christ, but I definitely won't go along with you, as some special priest, having a unique channel of communication with God that we, as the 'uninitiated' don't have, as Pastor Gould believes.

1 John 2:20-21 &quotYou have been anointed by the Holy One, and all of you have knowledge. I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and you know that no lie comes from the truth."

Jesus did away with the Priestly Cast of the Old Testament by taking His own blood into the Holy of Holies in the once for all sacrifice that paid the price for all of our sins. Upon doing that, He became our Great High Priest and the only advocate between us and the Father. The curtain was rent from top to bottom to signify that even the common man, such as me, can come through the Blood of Christ into the Throne-room to the Father without the assistance of some New Testament 'priest' who has a higher knowledge of the mysteries than me, as Pastor Gould believes.

This belief, that there are certain persons in the Body of Christ who have a tap into a higher level of knowledge than others, is called Gnosticism. The Gnostics have the Gnosis (esoteric knowledge) that others don't have. They have a tap into God for revelation knowledge that is not available to the 'uninitiated'. Gnosticism, as a teaching was rampant in the early church and was soundly denounced as heresy by the early church fathers. I will forgive Pastor Gould for his lack of understanding as he is but a young Christian, but as he desires to run the House of God then he should at least conform to the Scriptural precedents of being &quotapt to teach" and &quotholding fast to sound doctrine."

As I also pointed out to Pastor Gould, he is setting himself up, along with any others that are unfortunate enough to believe his erroneous doctrine, to begin a cult. Even if you, as the Senior Pastor, were shown to be in error he would still respect your wisdom in the matter, according to him. And we in the AOG stand in accusation of the JW's or the like beliefs of the Roman church. Submission to leadership is one thing, but unconditional submission to leadership is another, having its origin, not in Heaven, but in 'the very pit of Hell', to borrow another popular phrase.

At what point in his ministry should the people of his congregation have challenged the likes of Jim Jones. Jim Jones was a heretical AOG pastor who, in his self importance, went aside from the definite bounds of Scripture and consequently led hundreds of loyal and obedient followers to their premature deaths - men, women and children - in the name of Jesus. Had those 'obedient' people been unconditionally submitted to the Truth of the Word of God instead of being unconditionally submitted to the 'wisdom' of their pastor, as Pastor Gould suggests we should, the tragic incident would not be recorded in the annals of history.

These kinds of beliefs are exactly what I have been warning will come from not warning the members of the congregation about Faith Movement theology. Even if the person is not personally watching these Gnostics on TV in the mornings their teachings will eventually begin to permeate into mainstream thinking. Where did Pastor Gould get his ideas from?

&quotThe Lord spoke to me and said even I could have redeemed mankind if I had known the Scriptures well enough." said one Gnostic. It is not in the Bible, but he got it through direct revelation from God. Gnosticism! Heresy! &quotThe prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so." says the Lord.

It is obvious that the Sunday morning adult teaching sessions are really having an effect.

Five, You claim that you do not know what the Faith Movement is or who belongs to it.

In your taped message, you preached,

There is a concerted effort by men like Phil Powell that is sending out letters, and sending out literature all over Australia that is tearing these men to shreds and tearing what they call the Faith Movement to shreds.

And again,

I spoke to a man, and I'm going to name him this morning, because he was a member of this church, and he espoused this - that Pensacola and the men that I've spoken of and the Faith Movement - what is the Faith Movement? - some nebulous thing that they decide what it is and what it isn't? And they espouse it, they say, because they stand up and say, &quotWe will decide what is faith and what is not faith. We will have the last say on what you are to do."

And again,

If we are... if we are labeled as the Faith Movement, and if we, if we become what they call the Faith Movement - and what is the Faith Movement? What can the... what... what... what can the Faith... if I'm not part of the Faith Movement what can I believe and what can't I believe? How do I determine that? I would have to go to these men and I have to say, &quotI submit before you." And I say, &quotWhat can I preach and what can I teach and what can I do and what can't I do?" Because they seem to be the only ones with the answers.

Surely you must know who belongs to the Faith Movement and what it represents. For a Pastor who has been a member of the AOG for some years and has spent time in America, in the same state even as some of the major proponents of the Faith Movement gospel, I find your claim of ignorance of the movement, who these people are, and what they espouse, as quite alarming. My own communications with you, verbal and written, have clearly brought to your attention who they are. You should therefore have at least two years knowledge of these people. Besides that, have you not confessed to certain people, on different occasions, that you were &quotbrought up" in your Christian life in the Faith Movement? I have it on good and reliable authority that you did. Yet in your message to the congregation you plead ignorance!!!

Be that as it may, please inform me, if you truly don't know who the Faith Movement people are, why do you so vigourously defend them and prevent me from informing my friends of their dangerous heresies? How can you make an informed decision as to whether they teach sound doctrine or not if, as you claim, you don't even know who they are? Perhaps I have something worth sharing with my brothers and sisters after all. And then, perhaps not. But then, surely the Light of the Scriptures would reveal if I am wrong. Why are you afraid, Pastor? Why don't you give me a platform so that I can inform the congregation, and yourself, what they espouse so then the people can make their own minds up - they can make a calculated decision as to whether they want to follow on to the destination that you are leading them without their fully understanding. God says in warning, &quotMy people perish from lack of knowledge!" &quotThe blind lead the blind and they both fall into the ditch."

I know that would be an impossible request, so, for the benefit of yourself, your board, and others who might be reading this document, I will bring to your attention what the Faith Movement is and where the name originated. As you certainly know, it is not &quotsome nebulous thing that I decide what it is and what it isn't", as you so caustically and sarcastically preached in your message.

There is a man in Tulsa, Oklahoma, America, named Kenneth Hagin. He is the founder, and leading figure, of Rhema Bible Training Centre, who has now established a network of Rhema Bible Colleges world wide. His ministry also produces a monthly magazine which is propagated world wide. The magazine is entitled, and has been for many years, &quotThe Word Of Faith". The people who espouse the teachings of Rhema Bible Colleges, and the writings of &quotThe Word Of Faith" magazine, are members of, what is commonly called, the Word of Faith movement, or, the Faith Movement for short.

Kenneth Hagin obtained his theology from a man named E. W. Kenyon, the writings of whom he plagiarized and sold in booklets, by the millions, to people all over the world. Kenyon, with whose works you are familiar, obtained his understanding of the Atonement from the metaphysical cults. In other words, the occult! The proof of plagiarism against Hagin (which he will not confess to, or repent of, despite the undeniable proof) and the history of the origins of the Faith Movement are documented for anyone who would like to research the matter.

As senior Pastor of an AOG congregation, you should be aware that an official statement was issued by the General Assembly of the American AOG on 19th August, 1980, and published in their magazine, the Pentecostal Evangel, of the 16th November, 1980 (pp. 8-11, 18-20). The statement entitled &quotThe Believer And Positive Confession" was a warning which, in their own words, was to &quotcall attention to these excesses (of the Faith movement) and show how they are in conflict with the Word of God."

The authors of the statement cited biblical passages refuting the central tenets of the Faith Movement message. This statement remains in effect today for all Assemblies Churches and ministers.

So, as you can see, the leadership of the AOG have known for years who one is referring to when you speak of the Faith Movement. It is not some 'nebulous thing' that I have cooked up in my delusion, as you have suggested to the people of Cairns Christian Centre.

While on this subject, there is another straw man that you erect at this point. Another one that you can kick to bits to the delight of the crowd of onlookers. And you accuse me of putting up a smoke screen?

I find it quite alarming that you would twist the meanings of the valid concerns that I asked you to look at and then falsely accuse me, before my brothers and sisters in Christ, of being against faith. That is preposterous, and you know it! You mock your own intelligence, and mine, to suggest such a thing. Again, it is a poor attempt, by you, to prevent the people from looking at the real issue. We are, and always have been, talking about a group of people who come under the label of the &quotFaith Movement" (which I didn't give them, by the way). We are not, I repeat, not, speaking about faith, and you are well aware of that. Why do you shift the focus, Pastor?

But then, I had the same response from an executive member of the AOG when inquiring about AOG policy on Faith Movement teachings. His answer to my question was, &quotTo the extent that extreme teaching from the &quotfaith teachers" has been in contradiction of our Statement of Faith and the teaching of the Scripture, we are opposed to them. On the other hand, faith is an essential of our Christian walk and we can learn much from those who have taught on it" There's the straw man again, Pastor!!! There's the smokescreen to dim the discernment of the unsuspecting masses.

Well here are three examples of the 'much' that we can learn from the people of the Faith Movement who have taught on 'faith':-

1. &quotThe death of Jesus Christ was not a physical death alone. If it had been a physical death, and a physical death only, Abel would have paid the price for the sins of mankind. He's the first man that died because of honouring God and His Word. He was the first man that God dealed (sic) with in a prophetic manner after the fall of mankind."

2. &quotEvery prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic Covenant could have paid the price, if it were a physical death only."

3. &quotThe Spirit of God spoke to me, and He said, ''Son, realize this... A twice born man whipped Satan in his own domain.' And I threw my Bible clear out on the floor. I said, 'What?' He said, 'A born-again man defeated Satan... You are the very image and the very copy of that one.' I said, 'Goodness gracious, sakes alive... You couldn't dare mean that I could have done the same thing?' He said, 'Oh yeah, if you'd had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could've done the same thing, 'cause you're a reborn man, too.'"

The people who are promoting these heresies, people whom you vigourously and aggressively support and promote, are enemies of the Cross of Christ. They are enemies of the Deity of Christ. They are enemies of the Atonement. They are enemies of our very Salvation if we continue to fellowship with them in violation of the commandments of God, in Scripture. They are people of whom the Bible clearly warns that we are to take note of them and avoid them:

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly (worldly appetites - greed, pride, etc.); and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (Romans 16:17-18)

We are to have no fellowship with them but are to expose them:

For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. (Ephesians 5:8-11)

Even sharing the time of day with them is gross disobedience to the Word of God:

Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that bids him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:9-11)

By their own words, these people do not have the doctrine of Christ, and never have had. Their teachings are available to all who will investigate. God's Word informs us that because they do not have the doctrine of Christ, the Living Word, consequently, they have not God. Serious charges, but God has made them. Are we going to argue with God and continue to have fellowship with these people and defend them rather than fellowshipping with and defending Christians who are sounding a God given warning?

They have another gospel which is no Gospel at all. Paul said in Galatians 1:6-10,

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

There will be those who will stand before the Lord on that day, Pastor, who will continue to defend their actions to Him, crying, &quotLord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?" And then the chilling words of Jesus will be heard, &quotI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." This section of Scripture is actually speaking about those who do not take heed to the warnings of the Lord about false teachers - of wolves among the flock. Read Matthew 7;13-27 in context. It is about the seriousness of keeping and protecting the doctrine of Christ! It is about discerning wolves among the sheep. We will know the wolves by their fruit - their teachings!

Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God!!!

Whoever promotes and defends these people against exposure is a partaker in their evil deeds. Where does that Scriptural precedent leave yourself and the rest of the leadership of Cairns Christian Centre, Pastor? Your good works will count for nothing if you are not based upon sound doctrine. When the rain begins to fall and the flood of wrong teaching comes, when the howling winds of false doctrine beat against your house, it will not stand. Pleading ignorance will not protect you either. God has sent me to warn you, but in your contempt and your self-esteem you have cast me out. The message God has given me to deliver does not fit with your agenda - your temporal plans.

A question that should also be asked of you, and appropriately responded to, is why you did not reveal to the congregation when you came for appraisal that you were a promoter of Faith Movement theology and a supporter of the Toronto/Pensacola movements? You have introduced these beliefs and indoctrinated the people by stealth, Pastor. Line on line, precept on precept, you have slowly introduced your agenda. Your intention, as is plain to see now, has always been to bring in the Toronto/Pensacola fiascoes and the Faith Movement theology. You just need to get rid of a few dissenters who are making unwelcome noises and asking embarrassing questions.

Is this honesty? Is this how Paul would have presented his doctrine. Pretend to go along with the people at first, get to know them, make them comfortable, get them to trust and love you, get a couple of your friends as visiting preachers and drop a few ideas here and there - nothing too controversial - but start sowing the seeds.

Why did you not come out in the beginning and truthfully tell the people what you believe. For that reason, why didn't the few members of the board, who were in on what you stood for and your beliefs, warn the congregation? We are not children of darkness but of light. 1 John 1:6-7 tells us,

&quotIf we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

Why must we hide things from people. It is darkness that is afraid of light. It is un-Biblical error that is afraid of Biblical Truth.

Six, You claim that my intended objective in revealing the false teachings of the Faith Movement to my brothers and sisters in the Lord is to shatter everything they believe. Your exact quote was,

Some of you have been Christ's so long - many, many, many, years and you've come to a place of maturity and growth and development and these people will come in and they... and they will just shatter everything you believe. They will. That's what their objective is - is to shatter everything that you believe, so that you then can believe what they believe.

That is quite a serious charge, Pastor. I think you would be wise to choose phrases that are not so obviously intended to promote emotionalism and hysteria. I have always made it plain to you what my objective is. It is, and always has been, simply for you to allow the members of the congregation to be aware of what the Faith Movement teachers promote - teachings that are contrary to sound doctrine - and then let them check for themselves and decide for themselves, through prayer and from studying the Scriptures, whether God would want them to support the Faith Movement ministries or not. The decision is entirely theirs. Your objective, on the other hand, is to keep hidden from the 'uninitiated', as you insultingly call the people under your pastoral care, the truths of what these people promote, taking it upon yourself to be judge and jury of what the people should know and should not know. The decision is entirely yours. Who gave you that right, Pastor? Truth is not afraid of critical examination and what is false will be clearly shown for what it is by the light from the lamp of God's Word.

Seven, Your message insinuates that I, and people like me, do not believe in Salvation, healing, or the gifts of the Holy Spirit. What absurdity! Of all the problems within the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, I do not have an argument with God healing people or operating through them in the gifts. However, I do have a problem with people who abuse the Holiness of God and His precious gifts to the Body - for profit.

I realise that, thankfully, you did qualify your statement by saying, &quotI'm not saying these people don't believe that."

However, if you are not saying that we don't believe in healings or the operation of the Gifts of the Spirit, why did you include that as part of your message to denounce me before the congregation? Could it be that you did it to manipulate the people's thinking to paint a more negative picture of me? You talk about a criminal and then insidiously associate him with crimes that he has not committed for the purpose of arriving at a verdict that you are trying, for your own devious purposes, to obtain from the jury. So much emphasis was placed upon my ripping and tearing to shreds the ministries of these 'honourable men', as you describe them, that your brief qualification of &quotnot guilty" would have been lost to the hearer. With your qualification you immediately added, &quotBut what they want to do is that, they want to water it down so much that you don't know what you believe any more."

There's a lot of pretenders out there, Pastor, and there's a lot of gullible people who are willing to be fleeced in their search for hope. 2 Peter 2:1-3 reminds us, &quotThere will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them - bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and they will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up."

I'm all for Salvation, healing and the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but I am not for those who would come in the name of the Lord and exploit my friends in their greed. &quotBring the tithe into the storehouse that there might be food in my house," the Bible says. However, these people are robbing the people and then robbing God by putting the 'tithe' into their own bank accounts to support their own lavish lifestyles.

Eight, I would like to mention that, during our meeting with yourself and the board, you encouraged Bob Adamson to rethink his position, informing him that there was still hope for him. However, in my case you said that there was no hope. Are you pronouncing that I am I eternally lost for bringing you the truth?

Paul said, &quotFor you put up with fools gladly, since you yourselves are wise! For you put up with it if one brings you into bondage, if one devours you, if one takes from you, if one exalts himself, if one strikes you on the face." (2 Corinthians 11:19-20). Paul has also asked, and so do I, &quotHave I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? They zealously court you, but for no good; yes, they want to exclude you, that you may be zealous for them?" (Galatians 4:16-17).

Do you really suggest that God will condemn me for obeying His call to defend the Gospel and warn my friends of danger? Let me remind you that there is always hope for anyone who will repent of his evil ways, Pastor. Praise the Lord we have a God of Grace and Mercy and not a man of judgement and condemnation running the show. Which brings me to another matter of great concern.

I would also like to be advised if you, and the board, have changed your position as to the validity of the prophecy uttered, in the name of the Lord, by Chris Miles on Sunday the 29th of March, 1998, threatening death to myself, my wife and to anyone else who would dare to defy God by not abandoning all soberness, vigilance and Biblical common sense and jumping into the Toronto/Pensacola river of 'revival'?

An official statement was made by yourself, from the pulpit, on the following Sunday morning denouncing the prophecy as not of God and public correction was brought to inform the congregation that this was so.

During our meeting with yourself and the board on Friday 26th June, you used the identical phrase as that used by Chris in his pronouncement, "You are on dangerous ground" to intimidate and cause fear. Upon mentioning to you that your threat had already been issued by Chris previously, in a prophecy that had been publicly refuted as not Biblical, and not coming from God, but from either Chris' heart or Satan's, it was intimated, from yourself and Chris, that the prophecy of death was from God and that it was valid. I find this alarming, not because I am fearful that God is about to mete out some terrible retribution upon me, but because you have advised the congregation of one thing, but among yourselves, as leaders, particularly yourself and Chris, you are advocating something else. This shows lack of integrity and is dishonest in the extreme. If the prophecy is endorsed by leadership, then let it be known as such to the members of the church. If it is not, then let that be known. You cannot have two positions on this matter, one for leadership that is concealed (for the sake of unity) from the 'uninitiated' sitting in their pews and another for the rest. Be honest and consistent!

Death threats aimed at intimidating and causing fear in the people to bring them into line with a certain belief system has been the hallmark of the Toronto/Pensacola movements. How many times have you heard the story of Ananias and Sapphira recounted by promoters of the 'new move' over the last couple of years - particularly during altar calls? How many times have the people been warned that to resist this 'new move' from Toronto and Pensacola they will incur the wrath of God Who will strike them instantly dead in their pews? Ananias and Sapphira were guilty of lying to the Holy Spirit, not of rejecting the message of Salvation presented by one of the Apostles. There is a vast difference that is not readily perceived by the young Christians whom you should be defending against such atrocious doctrines being dispensed from the mouths of manipulating people. Show me in your Bible one instance where we have one of the Apostles abusing and threatening someone with some terrifying death coming from God because they didn't go along with what he was saying. There are no instances and the practice is un-Biblical in the extreme.

Nine, You have venomously, and falsely, accused me of sneaking into other people's homes and then secretly huddling in our homes when discussing the matters of false teachers and what God requires of us when we encounter them.

In your taped message, you said,

&quotThese men come hiding behind people's backs and sneaking into houses in the church."

And again,

&quotPaul went to Peter and he spoke to him face to face. He didn't hide in some corner somewhere and tear someone to shreds in a huddle in some little home."

I do not consider you or the board of Cairns Christian Centre to be the Gestapo or KGB. I fully appreciate that we currently live in a free country where freedom of speech and freedom of religious conviction is respected by the majority of residents. I have no need to sneak around and hide from you, nor am I, or anyone else that has taken a stand for Truth, fearful of you or any member of your board. I have no need to huddle in some 'little home' as you caustically and graphically portray me to be doing. Do not flatter yourself, Pastor.

On every occasion that I have spoken to people, either in their homes or in my own, I have always declared to them openly, beforehand, what it is that I wish to speak to them about. They have the option of talking with me or not - the choice is theirs. There's nothing covert about what I am doing. We are not selling Amway here - we are presenting the truth of the Word of God for my brothers and sisters in the Lord to evaluate. However, because I have not sought your permission to do this, you resort to un-Godly sarcasm and insults, not only to myself, which doesn't bother me, but to every other Christian in the congregation that I have been blessed enough to share with.

Besides, I openly declared my hand to you that I would warn my friends of the danger of false doctrine being promoted by false teachers. Your remark that you 'would not allow me to do that' was in no way binding to me and certainly does not mean that I would have to hide in my house, nor anybody else's house for that matter.

You would do well to read the Book of Malachi. Chapter three shows that amidst the gross disobedience and apostasy in the nation of Israel, particularly among the leaders, the Levites, there were still those in the nation who 'feared' the Lord and were obedient to Him. They met together, possibly huddled in their 'little homes', to discuss the situation that was prevailing. Verses 16-18 inform us,

&quotThen those who revered the Lord spoke with one another. The Lord took note and listened, and a book of remembrance was written before him of those who revered the Lord and thought on his name. They shall be mine, says the Lord of hosts, my special possession on the day when I act, and I will spare them as parents spare their children who serve them. Then once more you shall see the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve him."

What a blessing to know that God is present at every meeting where I contend earnestly for His Name and speak about the seriousness of preserving the Truth of His Word, which was given into our custody for that express purpose. What a comfort that He takes note and listens to the words that He has given me to share with His people who are unknowingly in alliance with an apostate and disobedient church, and then He writes our names in His Book of Remembrance.

Ten, In your taped message you stated,

&quotDon't get into the same error that these people are in, and they would justify themselves and they'll say, 'Well Paul rebuked Hymenaeus, that Paul rebuked Peter, that Paul did this....' And that's their justification of it. But I want to tell you that they're not Paul. Paul had authority over those churches. He had authority in Jesus' Name."

Mark 13:33-37 reads,

"Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter (watchman) to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."

Luke 9:1-2.

&quotThen he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick."

What has suddenly happened to your understanding on authority, Pastor? You are always preaching about the believers authority, in Christ. Where did you get your authority? I hope you won't say that it was given to you by the Assemblies Of God denomination. They've only been around since the early 20th century. Do I have to come to you, or your board, for permission to execute my authority in Christ, or do you think the Lord Himself can call someone and commission him to perform His ministry? No one takes this honour to himself, Pastor, but he receives it when he is called by God.

Do I think that I am Paul? Of course I do not. I do not even consider myself to be some important person. But even if I do have this attitude concerning my importance I do know what the Bible says concerning me - and also, more significantly, concerning you as a leader. Paul wrote to the Philippians in chapter 3, verse 17-18,

&quotBrethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us. For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ."

And again in chapter 4, verse 9,

&quotThe things you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things; and the God of peace shall be with you."

Timothy was commended by Paul because he carefully followed Paul's doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, etc.

And I have heard, from the Scriptures, that Paul rebuked Peter in front of the whole assembly because of his hypocritical action. Peter's hypocrisy was a danger to their very salvation. In fact, Barnabas was already affected by it. Dangerous practices require drastic correction. No, I am not Paul, nor am I even Peter, but I will do my best to imitate their stand for the defense of the Gospel, as Paul encourages us to in the above Scripture and also in 1 Corinthians 4:16, where he plainly says, &quotI appeal to you, be imitators of me." Paul has set an example here that he expects us to imitate in certain conditions. I am well aware that he is not giving us a mandate to run here and there rebuking people and I am not about to begin such folly.

I have not rebuked anyone over this matter, Pastor, but I have tried, on all occasions, to challenge their thinking in a civil and gentle manner, as Scripture tells us to, when attempting to convince people from the Word of God. I have not 'sneaked' into people's homes and abused them for not seeing things my way. Nor have I stood behind some 'little' pulpit somewhere and resorted to innuendoes and slander to dishonestly manipulate how people might think about those who disagree with my concerns. There has never been hostility from myself or my listeners. If they choose to think that I am off the track then that is their choice. At least they have had the opportunity to make a choice, which is more than can be said for the rest of the people whom you have fearfully attempted to prevent me from speaking to.

I ask again, what has suddenly happened to your belief that Christ has given us all authority and that we are to imitate Him. Are you Christ? Neither am I Paul, but he has called us to imitate him.

To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His Blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve His God and Father - to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

Eleven, In your message, in defense of teachers who get it wrong, you said,

Now is Benny Hinn gonna get it all right? No he's not. No more than you are, no more than I am, no more than this church is. But there is a... there is a concerted effort from within the church as well to tear down ministries... And I want to tell you they're not of the devil. There're not of the devil. Because they haven't got it all right. And I want to tell you they're men of faith and hope and love that stand and believe God.

No one is worrying about some pastor, or some home group leader, or some over-zealous new Christian who genuinely makes some trivial mistake. We are not talking here about mistakes. We are concerned about calculated and intentional heresy being preached to the masses by people who put themselves up as teachers of the Word and yet, really, have no valid theological background. In Paul's letter to Timothy (1 Timothy 1:3-7), which was recorded for our warning and instruction, we read,

&quotAs I urged you when I went into Macedonia; remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine, nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith. Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they so confidently affirm."

Do you see Paul here making excuses for these people who desire to be teachers, but get it wrong? No! He left Timothy in Ephesus to ensure that they got it right. By your theology, Faith Movement people, who have so much influence throughout the whole world, let alone Ephesus, should not be called to attention and made responsible for their continuing and blatant heresies.

In Acts 17:10 we see the account of Paul going to Berea and preaching in the synagogues. The Bereans searched the Scriptures daily to see if what Paul said was so. And they found that what Paul preached to them was so. Why was this do you think? It was because Paul knew what he was talking about. Did Paul know everything? As a mere mortal man I would presume that he did not. So therefore he must not have preached upon subjects of which he had no understanding, the same as these Faith Movement teachers should not foolishly and proudly teach upon things that they do not understand but so confidently affirm that they do, adding a few &quotGod told me's" to validate their eloquent words and fair speeches by which they deceive the hearts of the simple.

As I said and so say again, we are not talking about peripheral issues of whether Adam had wings and could fly to the moon, as Benny Hinn so foolishly asserts, but we are talking about the absolute fundamentals of our very Salvation. There is no debate on the fundamentals of our Faith, Pastor. Did the Blood of Christ, through the death of His body on the Cross of Calvary redeem us, or did it not? Was there anything else necessary to secure our redemption other than our hearing and accepting as true what Jesus performed on our behalf? Like perhaps, Jesus being defeated upon the Cross and forcefully dragged into Hell by a victorious Satan and a host of demons to die spiritually and suffer something more horrendous than a 'simple' death on a cross for three days and three nights? I find it difficult to believe that we should even have to debate this issue, but here we are at this place - me defending God's Word and attempting to warn my brothers and sisters in Christ and you defending people who want to trample underfoot the very Blood of Christ, who insult the Spirit of Grace and who incur the wrath of God upon themselves for their foolishness, meanwhile trying to keep this truth of Faith Movement theology from the people in the congregation. Defending and attempting to exonerate these people by saying they won't get it all right and it's alright to have heretical doctrines, which you pass of as simple, honest mistakes will reward you, and anyone else who defends you in your error, with the same judgement that they are going to be rewarded with, for the Word of God informs us in 2 John1:10-11, &quotIf anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds."

Obviously, for their eternal well-being, you should be revealing to those in your pastoral care, the danger of sitting under the ministry of anyone involved in the Faith Movement, according to the above Scripture.

Twelve, is just a short one concerning your lengthy discussion on Faith, Hope and Love. Either Faith, Hope or Love that is not based upon the foundation of the Truth of God's Word is not what it is claimed to be.

1 John 5:2 &quotBy this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey His commandments. For the love of God is this, that we obey His commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome,

2 John 1:6 "And this is love, that we walk after His commandments."

Loving someone so much that you do not tell them the truth, because it might cause pain to them, is no love at all.

I have a daughter whom I love very much. Supposing she was to be married to a nice young man who later on, for any number of reasons, begins having a secret affair with some other young lady. To my absolute horror, I find out that her husband is being unfaithful to her. On the outside he acts normal in my daughter's company and displays so much love and attention toward her with all kinds of promises for their future. My daughter suspects nothing. She is so happy with her life with this lovely young man. She knows nothing of what is going on in secret and her faith in this man increases daily. Her hope and security is established. She speaks with me about her relationship with her husband and her hopes for her future in such glowing terms. It is obvious she loves him very much. However, her faith and her hope and her love are based upon a lie.

I have two options. One is based upon false love, the other upon real love.

False love tells me I should not get involved. I should just mind my own business and pretend nothing is wrong. After all, she doesn't know and she is so happy. Why should I destroy her faith in this man? Why should I destroy her hope in her future? Why should I destroy her love and adoration for him? As I continue in my delusion of false love, her husband goes from bad to worse. Because he is getting away with it and nobody is letting my daughter know, he begins to have other affairs. We can imagine many scenarios as we progress with this fairy tale, but I have made my point on false love. I do not love my daughter!!! Even though I might feel love in my heart toward her and I might confess with my mouth that I love her, I do not have truth. Love without truth is not love. Hope without truth is not hope. Faith without truth is not faith, Pastor. Luther said, &quotI am not permitted to let my love be so merciful as to tolerate false doctrine. Where faith and doctrine are concerned and endangered, neither love nor patience are in order."

Real love demands truth. I must tell my daughter the truth despite destroying her faith, her hope and her love in this man. It will not be pleasant for her. Nor will it be pleasant for me, but I am obligated by my knowledge to reveal the truth. If I do not warn her, the situation will progress into unimaginable suffering somewhere down the track.

You accuse me of not loving my brothers and sisters in the congregation because I will destroy their faith and their hope. The boot is on the wrong foot, Pastor. I will display my love by advising them of the Truth of God's Word and let them base their faith and hope upon that.

Thirteen, If we are going to mention the 'castigation' of Benny Hinn and the destruction of hope in the people who come to him with their manipulated expectations, then you need to know, and so do the congregation, that in the letter to the 60 Minutes program from the 'mainline minister' that you quoted second hand, he said that by attacking Benny Hinn the program had actually attacked God Himself. Benny Hinn is equated with God Himself, according to this 'mainline minister.' Perhaps he has listened to Benny Hinn's message where he actually calls himself &quotBenny Messiah" or the one where he purposefully calls himself &quotI AM" a few times to get the people used to the idea that he is God.

Two weeks later, on this same program, there was an article on a man called Brother John, a Catholic mystic in South America who has a 'gift of healing.' Thousands of people are flocking to this man in the hope of having their diseases and sicknesses cured. A group of twenty or so people had come from Australia to have this man 'operate' upon them. He actually calls up demon spirits that enter him to perform the operations. Although they paid vast sums of money to get to South America in search of hope and a last desperate bid for a miracle cure, none of the group from Australia were able to be proven healed. Of course, Brother John is making a fortune preying upon these people in their desperate search for hope - he has a medicine dispensary to which the people must go - healed or not - to get their continuing treatment. Six bottles each of some liquid that they must drink to complete their healing. Twenty thousand dollars a day he is raking in from all these people in their search for hope. Not as much as Benny, but still not bad for a small time South American without a TV channel.

Should we tell these people that their hope is based upon a demonic lie? Yes we should! Should we partake of the lie by denying them the Truth? No we should not! By your theology, we should remain silent. We would be destroying people's hope. What was that Scripture? If we say, &quotLook, we did not know this" - does not He who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not He who keeps watch over your soul know it? And will He not repay all according to their deeds?

Fourteen, 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 tells us, &quotDo not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good."

In your Sunday morning message you made contemptuous remarks about the prophetic dream given to me by the Lord. There was more than one dream, Pastor, plus an experience that confirmed the Spiritual significance of the dreams. You are aware of this. Upon interpreting the symbols, it is obvious that the dream has been fulfilled and is in line with Scripture, the final authority in all matters.

However, there is a certain brand of theology that the Bible warns will be prevalent in the last days that will not fit with the interpretation of the symbols. That is, Faith Movement theology. However, when verses are read in context with the surrounding text and also the whole of Scripture, the interpretations are accurate. They are warnings of great peril for the followers of Christ. The one who has come to rob and to kill and to destroy is openly having a field day and you have failed to discern the truth in this critical matter.

Do the Scriptures warn of a great falling away from the doctrine as it was originally given in the days just prior to the return of Christ? Do the Scriptures warn of a multitude of false teachers coming and leading multitudes astray with strange doctrine in the days just prior to the return of Christ. Do the Scriptures teach that Jesus foresaw that sincere and genuine faith in Him and His teachings would be in drastic short supply in the last days leading up to His return? Do the Scriptures warn that Satan will prevail over the Saints for a time in the last days just prior to the return of Christ? Do the Scriptures warn that when a person is sent to the people of God with a prophetic message from Him that that person will be despised, kicked out of the church and have his name cast out as evil from the pulpit?

All these things are so, Pastor, but they are negative and do not fit with the messages that people with itching ears want to listen to. They want to hear about their self worth, their imminent prosperity, their promise of health, their promise of peace and their rightful authority over the cities and over the nations. They want to hear messages of revival and things exciting. Who wants to hear the hard news?

But I want to tell you, the Word of God will be fulfilled, and it warns of people who are unable, for a variety of reasons, to discern what is coming upon the world and upon the professing church. You need to teach the people the whole counsel of God. Luke 12:54-57 warns us,

&quotWhenever you see a cloud rising out of the west, immediately you say, 'A shower is coming'; and so it is. And when you see the south wind blow, you say, 'There will be hot weather'; and there is. Hypocrites! You can discern the face of the sky and of the earth, but how is it you do not discern this time? Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?"

I am sorry that this communication has had to be so long, but in closing I will just comment on your message, when you said,

&quotYou know... a lot of you know Hughie Seaborn. It is of great sadness to us and this Board. We have tried to talk to him. We have come together as a Board with him. We have - he will not change. He believes that ... virtually that this... because I espouse and because I believe what I believe that I'm in the same category as the rest of them. And he cannot accept my ministry or the ministry of the leadership of this church, and so we have no, we have no, sadly we have no other course. And I want to tell you my heart is breaking because of that. I have tried and I've tried and I've tried to... to ... give this man room but he... but he... but he will not change his ways. And he... and he... you might... he's already maybe given you his dream and his book of the yellow octopus that comes out of Africa. But I want to tell you folks, it's with sadness that we have to say, 'Hughie you cannot any longer fellowship in this church.' And that grieves us. The Board is grieved by... by what... the... by what we've had to do. It's one of the hardest things I've ever had to do in my life. And I... and I say... my heart breaks for it, in Jesus Name."

Your heart, and the heart of the board is breaking? What an amazing theatrical performance you achieved on that, Pastor. That should convince the people how patiently, compassionately, and lovingly you and the board have laboured with me. What Godly and holy people! Such love and patience! Perhaps you could give each member of the congregation a copy of the tape from our Friday night meeting. It would have been good to have videoed the proceedings. People would have seen some, I repeat some, of your board who are not very patient or loving. Some looked as though murder would be too pleasant an ending for the likes of myself. Perhaps you need to bring some teaching in your board meetings on the fruit of the Spirit, particularly self-control. Outbursts of anger belong to the flesh. I won't mention names, in case it brings division, but some of the men on your board did display a genuine and Godly spirit. But others. Well....

I have taken the liberty to send copies of this document to each member of the board so they will be informed as to what I have, and have not said. Your failure to inform them of my concerns in the past has necessitated that I do this. I am not expecting that you, or they, will answer the questions I have raised in this document, but if you do, please don't go attacking and ripping me to shreds on a personal level. I am not interested in personalities, but doctrine only.

In the words of Luther. &quotUnless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason - I do not accept the authority of Pope and Councils, for they have contradicted each other - my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I cannot do otherwise. God help me, amen."

If you feel that you can Biblically justify defending and concealing known heretics then you are deceived, doing so at your own peril. The Word of God graphically focuses our attention on these people, warning us of their unsound doctrine and instructing us that we should teach our brothers and sisters to be vigilant for them among the flock.

Yours in Christ's Service unto those staggering to the slaughter.

Hughie Seaborn.

PS. There are always those gullible souls in the Body of Christ who are so willing to forgive even though one has not shown fruit of repentance. I have had many say to me, &quotBut that was years ago, Hughie. The Faith Movement was exposed for teaching those things long ago. They aren't doing that today." Oh, yes they are! Joyce Myers' book which reiterated the apostasies mentioned above is a recent addition to the pile of rubbish already circulating. Besides, earlier promoters still have their original beliefs about the Atonement, etc., but they are not as vocal with them today, due to the enormous outcry from genuine scholars of the Word. They are now promoting their beliefs by stealth. Heresy is hidden alongside truth so that the unaware will not be conscious of it.

Christians will find no excuse before the Lord to have themselves pronounced &quotnot guilty" from blame for being fooled by these people. God's has given us His Word which warns us of these people where He says in Matthew 7:18, &quotA good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." The roots of their beliefs are today producing bad fruit. Which only confirms the truth of God's Word. Verse 19 tells us, &quotEvery tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." If the root of the tree is bad, so will be its fruit. But oh! It looks so good. So did the fruit of the tree in the Garden.

Others see the issue as non-important. They've never heard Faith Movement preachers say these things, so what's the fuss. They have lost sight of the Holiness of God. They have not caught a revelation of how seriously God views sin - especially sin that would lead His people away from the Truth. So long as we have our hearts toward God He will understand, they say. God knows our hearts.

&quotMany will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness.' Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts upon them, may be compared to a wise man, who built his house upon the rock. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and burst against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded upon the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not act upon them, will be like a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and burst against that house; and it fell, and great was its fall."

This is specifically speaking about doctrine. Read Matthew 7, in context! The Lord will not know these Charismatics and Pentecostals because they were preaching another doctrine. They are not founded upon the Word! Great will be their fall!