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Important Notes This file will be posted to Equine-L once a month and privately as need dictates. If anyone has anything that they want to add or suggest to this little "How To..." please contact me: tarascholtz@comcast.net The LISTOWNER
is Bill Gorman. You can reach him at: The Assistant Listowner is Tara Scholtz. You can reach her at: tarascholtz@comcast.net
Just about all of these features can be accessed via the listserv website: http://lists.psu.edu/archives/equine-l.html SUBSCRIBING,
UNSUBSCRIBING AND POSTING TO EQUINE-L IN MOST CASES, THE REPLY FEATURE DOES NOT GENERATE THE PROPER FORMAT FOR THE LISTSERV. HOW DO I
SUBSCRIBE TO EQUINE-L? To Subscribe: You may post using an "Alias" if you wish, but you must subscribe with your full, true identity. To leave
EQUINE-L proceed as follows: HOW DO I
POST TO EQUINE-L? Once subscribed, send EQUINE-L postings as E-mail to: EQUINE-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU just as you would if you were sending E-mail to another person. You will not normally receive any confirmation from the list that your posting has been received, nor will a copy of your own postings be sent back to you by the LISTSERV. [note: this can be changed - see below] TURNING MAIL ON AND OFF: SETTING NOMAIL From time to time you may find it convenient to halt the flow of incoming EQUINE-L list mail without giving up your subscription to the list. This may be due to a sudden surge in workload allowing little time to read list mail, vacation, sabbatical, or a number of other reasons. One significant advantage of this method over simply signing off the list is that, while you will receive no incoming list mail when this option is in effect, you preserve your privilege of posting to the list. To halt the
flow of incoming EQUINE-L E-mail: To restore incoming EQUINE-L mail service, repeat the above procedure but send the command: SET EQUINE-L MAIL CAN I GET EQUINE-L POSTINGS IN DIGEST FORMAT? In a word: Yes! You can choose to receive only a FEW daily mailings from EQUINE-L containing all the individual postings made that day (note: EQUINE-L is a HIGH-volume list). This will be sent to you in a digest format, conforming to RFC 1153. [note: new subscribers are automatically set for "Digest"] Selecting this option automatically sets the NOMAIL option for your EQUINE-L subscription, so you will not receive any other list mail except the daily digests. You will still be able to post to EQUINE-L in the normal fashion, just as if you were receiving the postings as individual, in-coming E-mail. There will, of course, be an increased time lag between the submission of a posting by a EQUINE-L subscriber and the time you receive it in digest form. To select
the digest option for EQUINE-L: To deactivate this option and once again receive each individual EQUINE-L posting as a separate, individual piece of incoming E-mail, proceed as above but send the command: SET EQUINE-L MAIL
One VERY
helpful thing is for people to use *plain text* editors, as A second
helpful thing is that people do not add attachments to their The third helpful thing can sometimes be to unsubscribe and resubscribe. This problem does crops up once in a while on the list. As far as it can be determined, it is due to problems at some site(s) between the listserv and the list recipient. The most common cause is some arbitrary limit imposed on messages by one site or another. It can also be a problem at the subscriber's local site. If that does not cure the problem, and I doubt that it will, the next step is to complain to the local sysadmin. Do not let them tell you that it is a problem of the listserv, since if it were, everyone of the entire list would be reporting the same thing. Hope this helps. Sorry I cannot offer a better solution. WHAT IF I WANT TO KNOW IF MY POST WENT OUT? If you want
to ALSO receive a copy of YOUR post when it is distributed to Or, if you
don't want to actually see your own messages but just want to know that
they reached the listserv: This tells the listserv to send you a brief acknowledgement every time it receives a message from you. WHAT
DO I DO IF MY MAIL PROGRAM STRIPS OUT THE HEADERS? 1) Send email
to: LISTSERV@LISTS1.PSU.EDU To change
it back change the message to: CAN I GET AN INDEX OF EQUINE-L POSTINGS? Archive depth is now 60 days. Digest size has been adjusted downward to approximately 1000 lines at the request of a number of subscribers. This is likely to mean that the listserv will send more, but smaller, digests. To retrieve
the archive list for EQUINE-L: You will
then get a listing by date of what is available. To retrieve a where XXXXX substitutes for the year, month & letter code for a particular log's file. HOW CAN
I GET THE SUBJECT LINE TO SAY [EQUINE-L] To have "[Equine-L]"
added to your subject line: PROBLEMS WITH THE DIGEST? If the digest lists X messages but the table of content lists N amount. Count the headers - it will group similar titles together. If you use AOL you're going to have problems reading the digest version of Equine-L. To circumvent that: In Windows - download the digest file to your aol\download directory, then in Windows Explorer/File Manager, just point at EQUINELD.MIM and click. If your software assigns the text editor to any file with mim extensions it should open right up. If not, highlight the file name, then in Explorer's software at top under the VIEW drop down menu, go to OPTIONS, then go to FILE TYPE and assign a NEW file type to a MIM file and assign it to the text editor (such as notepad). A number of you have asked how to get the digests sent as attachments to e-mail. This gives you the flexibility or selectively storing a single message out of the digest or picking which message(s) to read at random instead of scrolling through the whole thing. (NOTE: You MUST have a MIME-aware mail client to do this): 1) Send an
e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTS1.PSU.EDU If the digests are coming as attachments and you don't want them that way: 1) Send an
e-mail to: LISTSERV@LISTS1.PSU.EDU WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO: Please turn
off your e-mail software switches. Please do NOT send messages using HTML (ya know, the fancy colours, the underlining, the italics). It must be in plain text in order for the message to be able to be read by all subscribers.
HOW CAN I GET FURTHER HELP? If you send the command HELP to ANY Listserv, either as E-mail or an interactive message, you will receive a brief summary of other Listserv commands which may be useful. The LISTOWNER
is Bill Gorman. You can reach him at: Or you can tarascholtz@comcast.net for help. What is EQUINE-L? EQUINE-L is a discussion list for and about horses; all kinds, types and varieties of horses. Postings ranging from care and feeding of your backyard hack to scientific research concerning any aspect of wild or domestic equine populations are welcome. If you wish to discuss training, human-equine psi experiences, horse "ghosts", seek a bit of comfort over the loss of a cherished horse, or find the best way to handle any aspect of horse ownership, you may reasonably expect to be welcome on EQUINE-L. EQUINE-L is a very high-volume list. It is also unique in the sense of "community" and "belonging" which exists among subscribers. If you are seeking a "just-the-facts" list, this may not be the place for you. If you are seeking an environment wherein participants regularly share one another's equine joys and sorrows, you have found a home. Managers and Administrators of any institution maintaining an equine population, (breeders, trainers, tracks or research installations) may discuss mutual problems and points of interest here. Graphic discussion of research techniques may be inappropriate for this list and offensive to some subscribers. Use good taste in what you post. Reasonable discussion of conservation and environmental issues, as they specifically relate to equine populations, are welcome here. The same holds true for almost any aspect of equine veterinary care and management. In short, absolutely anything that may reasonably be seen to have a relationship to equines and/or to human-equine interactions may be posted here... with one or two exceptions. What EQUINE-L is NOT! EQUINE-L is not the place for flames in any form. Period. As list owner I do not expect to read every post on this list, nor do I want this to become a moderated/digested list. However, I will not look kindly upon deliberate attempts to disrupt the list, usurp it to some other topic unrelated to equines, or use it as a format for politicized "position statements" or axe-grinding over some emotion-charged subject. This is not the place for campaigning for animal rights, debating the ethics of maintaining horses, pleading generalized environmental cases not directly bearing on an equine population, arguing the pros and cons vegetarianism, hunting, farm animals or any similarly tangential topics. This is, first and foremost, a place for people who love horses. Any kind of horses. Blatantly commercial postings, ads, chain letters, etc., are unwelcome. None of the foregoing is intended to stifle discussion; it *is* intended to ensure that problems which have sometimes plagued other discussion lists do not take root here. Nobody is going to "look over your shoulder" to scrutinize every word posted. There are no "Thought Police" here. To avoid future misunderstandings It is necessary to state these restrictions at the outset, rather than attempting to impose them at some later date. It is my hope that all this will make EQUINE-L the kind of place you want to return to often, and whose arrival in your mailbox becomes a welcome and anticipated event. I reserve all necessary options to myself.
Also remember that all posts & information that appear on Equine-L are the property of Equine-L and the original poster. Please do not take people's ideas and post them on a website (or newsletter or anything for public use) without first obtaining permission. HINTS
ON POSTING 1) Please
put your name, email address, and maybe a general location (state, city,
country, whatever you like) at the end of your 2) Try and be clear on the subject line as to what the letter is about. If it's long, say so. If it is mostly for one person or one part of the country (e.g.., a trail ride in Florida or a show in Oregon), say so. That way, folks with really crowded mailboxes can pick out what they really want to read. 3) Please remember to type in upper and lower case, all UPPER CASE MAKES IT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE YELLING! And it is a lot easier to read 4) Try to include public multi-replies in one message. Nobody wants their mailboxes filled with 36 one-liner replies from one person. Some of our subscribers have to pay for this service and 36 messages from 1 person added with everyone else's posts add up. 5) Quote enough of the message to which you are replying to make it clear what your message means, unless the subject line by itself does that job... Don't quote all of the text if your reply pertains only to part of it. 6) When quoting another post, be sure to remove the "Information from the Mail Header" portion. If you don't, most likely your post will not make it to the list (instead coming to my personal inbox as an Error Message from the listserv computer). THINGS NOT RECOMMENDED: A) Subject
lines that fool people into thinking it's personal:"Re: Your B) One or two-line non-informative messages to a single person: such as: "Attagirl, Jane! Congratulations on buying a new hoof pick!" or "Newbie: We're reading you loud and clear in Tallahassee!" REMEMBER EQUINE-L IS A HIGH-VOLUME LIST C) Messages that are not of general interest to the whole list. Occasional off-topic posts occur on this list with no harm done. Please respond privately to such messages. The group tends to be very much interested in what happens to their Equine-L family, but please keep in mind that discussions on this list ought to be related to things equestrian. D) Signature files that are longer than 10-12 lines. E) Attached files - they cause great distress to many of our digest readers. Remember that not everyone's computer is as fancy as yours. To many of the E-L digest readers an attached file will look like complete gibberish AND will cut off the rest of the digest messages. F) Yes, there are times when a post from a member may offend you in some way. All of us have our hot buttons, and some of us respond in public. Some list members take the attack private as well. Some of those attacks go over the line of expressing our ire at the original post. Some of those attacks become quite threatening! You must know that attacks like this are tasteless and are illegal! Your Internet provider can be appealed to to take your account away. You will certainly be removed from the list by the list owner. Remember:It is an electronic world, where things are often not what they seem. You really have no idea what your fellow list members real life is like. You may really have an impression that is far off reality! So, think before you do these things! You should also realize that this list has a long history. Many of you are new and don't know that many of these list relationships have been in effect for years. So, think before you hit that send button! G) Welcoming
new members publicly: Rather than post "Welcome, H) Posting "thank yous" to several people you list by name, as in, "Thank you Tina, Sina and Irina for your excellent advice." Blanket thank yous to the list in general are fine, but if you're only thanking 3 specific people, why notify the rest of us? (Unless we add "Most Saint-like" to the EL awards.) I) Please do not send posts to the list as HTML or enriched text. Also make sure that your mailer does not send an additional copy of the post as an attachment. Remember, that some people have to pay (per minute or per kb transmitted) for their online time and unnecessary attachments/text encoding increases their costs, or that they may have to access there email from a text based terminal and HTML can render the post unreadable. Also, remember that e-mail is a text based service and HTML belongs in one place only --- the world wide web. To figure out how to turn off HTML/enriched text, you can go to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/listadmins/ OTHER EQUINE-RELATED LISTSERVS Well, the list is getting longer & longer every day and there are now web pages devoted to collecting such information. Point your web browser to Google and do a search there to get started. EQUINE-L STUFF Sven & Olaf are two swedes (no, not Swedes) who appear at the farm of E-L members who have fallen into Gimps-L & the Broken Butt Society (BBS) to help out with various barn chores. Both are rumored to look smashing when not wearing a shirt. I'm afraid, having not been able to join either society just yet that I haven't yet met these gents.... [note: Although Tara's copy of the OED does not list swede, just Swede, she has been assured by the Brits on the list that a swede is pretty much a turnip.] Apparently in late 1999, early 2000 our beloved swedes have abandoned Equine-L for the lovely ladies of Dressage-L. Gimps-L & BBS can now contact Mahmoud and Nabil. According to Maryanne Stroud Gabbani those two have: "Curly black hair, great tans (don't need tanning beds), look super dashing across the dunes on Arab horses..... oh, ye sheikhs of Araby!!!!" We thank you very much Maryanne. The Hammer thread. Ahh yes. It was a day of MUCH silliness on the list which forever changed the perception the non-Americans on this list had of us Americans, especially that of American women. Since then we have found out that Graham, Lutz, Luke & Richard are especially brave since they decided to visit America, even after the fateful day the "Hammer thread" took place. The Hairy Huntsman is a spider. I don't like spiders. The list also found out that Australia has quite an interesting (yeah - that's the word) collection of flora and fauna on their continent. Hapless members of Equine-L often unwittingly join GIMPS-L or the Broken Butt Society (BBS). If you find you are part of those groups, there are many here who will commiserate with you. The plus side is Sven & Olaf! WHU. The World Horse Union. I know nothing about it really but Timber assures me that if he gets his carrots, apples and Leo's Choice Treats, I have nothing to fear from this group. Horse Hoarders Anonymous (HHA) is a twelve-step program which many members can't help you with. Supposedly it gets worse when you see your first mini. Horses Against Baths (HAB) - just watch out for them. Tim Tams
are a type of biscuit made in Australia specially designed fo rchocolate
addicts. WHAT IS THE "FLEAMARKET" AND HOW DO I ACCESS IT? The Fleamarket is a non-commercial service provided for E-Lers that have a horse they want to sell or to buy, tack for sale or wanted and stud services. As long as it is horse related and is non-commercial, you can list it. And yes, you can put ads on for friends. Best of all, this is FREE! Please send your ad to zipmouse@hotmail.com and include the following information: DESCRIPTION:
Description of your merchandize, etc. She will put on the date the ad first runs. YOUR AD WILL BE DELETED AFTER FOUR (4) WEEKS unless you notify me to extend it. Also, please keep your descriptions down to a minimum. Yes, I know that we all tend to wax eloquent on our equine friends, but at present we're already up to six sections. EQUINE-L BIRTHDAYS At the first
of every month Teresa Locatelli posts the birthday info of Technical/Administrative
Trivia If you get
really bored you can visit my VERY outdated homepage here.
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