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Bahá'í - Christian Dialogue Interest Group

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Newsletter No. 1 January 1998
Introduction
Perspectives on Bahá'í-Christian Dialogue
A Useful Web Site
Pope Paul VI and Dialogue
Words of Jesus
Writings of Bahá'u'lláh
Mission Statemen
Interest Group Functioning
What is the Association for Bahá'í Studies?
Newsletter No. 2 under construction  

Baha'i Christian
Dialogue

Newsletter No.1 January 1998

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Dear Friends,

Two years ago the Bahá’í/Christian Dialogue Interest Group was formed within the Association for Bahá’í Studies - Australia. The group has functioned enthusiastically but intermittently, mainly by email discussions. As I took the initiative in starting the group, I feel some responsibility to ask, via this newsletter, where we should go from here.

This newsletter will not necessarily be an ongoing thing. It depends on how we decide to operate. However I hope that by sending out just 2 or 3 newsletters over the next couple of months, it would give us a means to share some information and ideas, and to formulate a mission statement.

wpe3.jpg (10990 bytes) Bahá’í/Christian dialogue is a vitally important and fascinating field. Bahá’ís can learn a lot from Christians, and vice versa. In the short history of the Bahá’í Faith there have already been many productive and friendly points of contact with Christians. However, like religious dialogue everywhere, it is a relatively under-developed field and can involve difficulties and challenges. In previous ages it may have been possible for people to ignore these difficulties and simply see members of other religions as misguided souls to be converted, or even as enemies to be fought against. Now we need a new approach, which truly recognises that we are all God’s children.

Some of the things I personally hope this group can work towards include:
A more informed and sympathetic understanding of Christianity within the Bahá’í community

Newsletter no.1 :  
Introduction
Perspectives on Bahá'í-Christian Dialogue
A Useful Web Site
Pope Paul VI and Dialogue
Words of Jesus
Writings of Bahá'u'lláh
Mission Statemen
Interest Group Functioning
What is the Association for Bahá'í Studies?

 

 

 

 

 


The development of better presentations of the Bahá’í Faith for Christian audiences.

Understanding of the skills required for successful inter-religious dialogue, ie: skills intended to overcome some of the intellectual, psychological and spiritual obstacles which are typically encountered.

Actual, fruitful dialogue between Bahá’ís and Christians.

A sharing of ideas, resources, questions and reflections on the practice of dialogue.

Encouragement of those who have the desire to produce papers and other scholarly contributions to the field of Bahá’í/Christian dialogue.

The remainder of this newsletter contains a variety of material which I found interesting, and some thoughts about how the groups could function. I hope some of you will be motivated to write to (or email) me with your thoughts or contributions.

With warm regards,

Colin Dibdin

Perspectives on Bahá’í-Christian Dialogue

(From various sources including e-mail correspondence.
Note: John is a Christian. The other writers are Bahá'ís.)

Paul: I would like to suggest that

1. Christian/Bahá’í dialogue is a PROCESS not a weapon to be used in debate between Bahá’ís and Christians or a short-cut in the conversion process.

2. Christian Bahá’í dialogue be based on mutual education, i.e. the relationship become a learning co-operative. It should generate and maintain interest in a lifelong study of the subject.

3. In a conceptual matrix of this process (the dialogue), there are at least three dimensions:

x receptivity of the Christian

y the attitude of the Bahá’í

z the knowledge of the Bahá’í

Of these three the most important for the advancement of the dialogue is "y", with patience and kindness being key components.

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Gary: "There is Only One Christ. I find that this principle always raises a certain number of Bahá’í eyebrows. Don’t we say there are lots of "Christs"? Don’t we insist that Jesus Christ was simply "one among many"? Don’t we say Christ was fine for His time, but that was then, and this is now, and so we need Baha’u’llah and His teachings to replace Christ and the Bible? Yes, we Bahá’ís say plenty of things like this, particularly to our Christian friends. And no matter what other wonderful things we may say, we seem always to bog down at this juncture in arguments about the uniqueness of Christ. By doing so, we miss Baha’u’llah’s point regarding the oneness of the Manifestations. What we must see is that Christians who insist on the everlasting uniqueness and supremacy of Christ are correct — in a very important sense. They didn’t invent this principle: It is upheld both in the Bible and in the Bahá’í teachings.

"...Most Christians, I find, intuitively understand this distinction between the Divine Christ (the indwelling Presence of God) and the human, historical Jesus. Many understand it in a very explicit and thoughtful way: It is, after all, standard Christian theology. Instead of trying to undermine or diminish their concept of Christ, we do better to expand their vision: Help them see that Christ — this Divine Christ — is even greater and more universal than they may have realized. If we confirm their belief in Christ, and explain it in this manner, we create a shared sense of commitment that is most attractive. And we demonstrate that boundless reverence for Christ in no way contradicts our belief in Baha’u’llah, or in progressive revelation. If we evince this attitude toward Christ (which is common to both the Bible and the Bahá’í teachings); if we emphasize that in this sense, there is only one Christ — it’s often amazingly easy to reach agreement in principle regarding His nature and station. Not every Christian will agree with every word we say on this topic, but that’s irrelevant. The point is that this familiar, easily understood perspective rarely takes Christians outside their comfort zone. And once we find common cause regarding the identity of Christ, it becomes possible to discuss freely all the other sticky issues that paralyze Baha’i-Christian dialog."

(from Gary Matthew’s e-mail newsletter "Notes from Stonehaven", June 1997)

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John: I think Bahá’ís need to analyse in more details the doctrinal differences of different Christian denominations and prepare a set of guidelines for tackling Bahá’í-Christian dialogue with each denomination. I don’t think it’s sufficient to have a general Bahá’í-Christian dialogue. What Bahá’ís need to do is, after extensive research, prepare a Bahá’í-Catholic dialogue and a Bahá’í-Protestant dialogue, etc., right down to the denominational level…All this is my humble opinion, of course.

Bahá’ís tend to make the same mistake as Christians. Christians often talk about non-Christians as though non-Christians are a homogeneous bunch. It’s true to a point, but not in face-to-face discussion. I think Bahá’ís often tend to talk about Christians as a homogeneous bunch.

This is where most Bahá’í books that tackle Christianity are lacking. They’re really vague and waffly. They don’t recognize the importance of detailed doctrine to a Christian. Of course, Christians have had a long time to develop this doctrine. Michael Sours, to his credit, in his excellent books, recognizes this. But what can he do? He has limited space. He recognizes that evangelical Protestants are a big group, especially in the US. So that is what he tackles. But Catholics dominate much of Latin America and many European countries.

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Matt: If you are teaching Christians I think the most important thing to do is to try to show them that the Bahá’í approach to Chrsitianity and Christ is not SOLELY an explanation of how the Bahá’í religion fits in with Christianity, but really offers a more realistic, magnanimous, and beautiful view of Christianity than the common, Orthodox understanding.

If they are conservative Christians, DON’T focus on the liberal Bahá’í teachings. I have made this mistake before. Focus more on issues like chastity, justice, trustworthiness, etc. . I hope this helps, Matt

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John (again): What the Bahá’í needs to do is to treat a dialogue with a Christian as a learning exercise. I think the key is to ask the Christian questions, to let the Christian explain their point of view to the Bahá’í. Not to talk too much. To introduce Bahá’í concepts slowly. To point the Christian to easy books to read. In my experience, Bahá’ís talk too much. I think listening, understanding, and gently introducing ideas are a much more fruitful approach. Unless the Christian specifically wants more detail, I suspect it’s usually better to say too little about the Faith rather than too much. Moderate in speech, but maximum in listening.

To the Christian, at least the Protestant Evangelical Christian living in a Western industrialized country, which is what I know most about, the Bahá’í Faith is full of lots of strange concepts, which should be introduced slowly. I think building links of genuine friendship is the key to successful dialogue. Not attempting to point out who is right and wrong, which is part of the aim of rational dialogue.

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Chris: ... Using the Bible for proof texts as the indisputable Word of God in a fundamentalist sense is extremely problematic and in fact goes against several essential tenets of Bahá’u’lláh’s Revelation. This approach denies the contextuality of religious truth, the need for humility and perhaps most of all an "openness" to the "other" which is an essential manifestation of spiritual love. Each individual has a unique set of capacities to reflect different aspects of the "imago dei". In the fundamentalist approach to using scripture as proof texts (which unfortunately many Bahá’ís engage in) there is no quiet listening side which is open to new perspectives. This "masculine" aspect of teaching needs to give way to a more "feminine" one in which love rather than intellectual coercion is the modus operandi.

... the majority of mainstream Christian theologians believe... That the Bible is a collection of books and letters which contain expressions of religious experience. Communities which have been moved by the spirit of God have recorded their interpretations of a spiritual journey.

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Michael Sours wrote about "...three important Bahá’í principles that will help us develop and maintain a spirit of friendliness when we discuss the Bahá’í Faith with Christians...

1. Emphasizing areas of agreement;
2. Listening to other points of view and learning about the scriptures, beliefs, and terminology of those with whom we converse;
3. Adapting our presentation to the particular terminology and temperament of the people to whom we speak."

(Preparing for a Baha’i/Christian Dialogue: vol.1: Understanding Biblical Evidence, p.4.)

A Useful Web Site

http://www.bci.org/st_paul/christian.htm

This Internet site gives the text of a new pamphlet by Stonehaven Press, including a Bahá'í view of the following questions:

• Do Bahá'ís believe in the Bible?
• What do Bahá'ís believe about Jesus Christ?
• Do Bahá'ís believe Christ was the Son of God?
• Doesn't the Bible also say Jesus Himself was God?
• What about the Trinity?
• Do Bahá'ís believe Christ rose from the dead?
• So do Bahá'ís believe in an afterlife?
• Do Bahá'ís believe in Satan?
• What is the relationship between Christ and Bahá'u'lláh ?

 

Pope Paul VI and Dialogue

In 1964 Pope Paul VI's first encyclical focused on dialogue: "dialogue is demanded nowadays...is demanded by the dynamic course of action which is changing the face of modern society. It is damanded by the pluralism of society and by the maturity man has reached in this day and age. Be he religious or not, his secular education has enabled him to think and speak, and to conduct dialogue with dignity."

Further official words of encouragement came from the Vatican secretariat for dialogue with non-believers: "All Christians should do their best to promote dialogue...as a duty of fraternal charity suited to our progressive and adult age."

From an article by Leonard Swidler, Professor of Catholic Thought and Interreligious Dialogue.

 

Words of Jesus:

You shall love the lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbour as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.

(Matt. 22:36-40)

From the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh:

They that are endued with sincerity and faithfulness should associate with all the peoples and kindreds of the earth with joy and radiance
... Blessed are such as hold fast to the cord of kindliness and tender mercy and are free from animosity and hatred.


(Tablets of Bahá'u'lláh, p.36)

Interest Group Mission Statement

In order to become ‘officially recognised’ as part of the Association for Bahá'í Studies (ABS)- Australia (and thereby get access to resources such as the Bahá'í Studies newsletter, web page and conferences) we need to produce a short mission statement for approval by the ABS Board. May I offer the following as a first draft:

The Bahá'í/Christian Dialogue interest group exists to promote cordial and productive dialogue between Christians and Bahá'ís. The group will: 1) try to discover and practice the skills and attitudes of successful dialogue, 2) engage in actual dialogue as well as reflecting on the process, and 3) encourage group members to produce scholarly work which will contribute to better understanding between Bahá'ís and Christians.

If possible please send your comments before the next ABS Board meeting on 31 January.

Interest Group Functioning

I suggest that we adopt a low-workload method of functioning such as e-mail. Many of us are connected to the Internet. The Bahá'í Studies Board has an email discussion list, Baha’i-Dialogue, for use by its interest groups among other things. (The hardware used to operate that list is presently unserviceable, but the address cdibdin@ozemail.com.au may be used temporarily.)

For those without Internet access I will be happy to post printouts of the discussion from time to time, as well as newsletters if we decide that a newsletter is worth having. This will not be too expensive while the group is small (presently about 30 members)

Some other possibilities: a Web site; meetings at the annual Bahá'í Studies Conference; our own meetings or seminars when we have work-in-progress to present; casual get-togethers if the distances are not too great.

Another thing we should discuss at some time is coordination of the group. Perhaps we can elect a coordinator at an annual meeting. In the meantime I'm happy to continue in this role, by default, until a more democratic arrangement can be put in place.

Please send your feedback and contributions to Colin Dibdin, PO Box 319, Rosebery NSW 2018, or by e-mail to cdibdin@ozemail.com.au . Feel free to phone or fax me anytime as well, on (02) 9317 3883.

Remember, Interest Groups only survive if people show their interest. I look forward to your input.

With warm regards,

Colin Dibdin

 What is the Association for Baha'i Studies?

The Association for Bahá'í Studies (ABS) is a non-professional association involved in the development of Bahá'í scholarship. Members come from a diversity of religious, cultural and occupational backgrounds: academic and non-academic; Bahá'í and non-Bahá'í. The main criterion for membership is an interest in Baha'i scholarship.

The purpose of the ABS is to promote the study of the history, teachings and philosophy of the Bahá'í Faith, and the application of Bahá'í principles to the concerns of society.

wpe3.jpg (5275 bytes) The Association for Bahá'í Studies - Australia
PO Box 319
Rosebery NSW 2018
Secretary (02) 9317 3883

abs@bahai.org.au

 

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