This is one of several pages relating to the history of the automatic totalisator, its invention in 1913, the inventor George Julius and the Australian company he founded in 1917 which became a monopoly and later part of an oligopoly in this field. This page relates the history of the company mentioned above, Automatic Totalisators. This is a history only non commercial page. If you wish to start from the beginning then go to the index .
I give thanks to the above for their foresight in recording this history. I have been unable to acquire any video footage from the remnants of Automatic Totalisators, the company that produced these systems. Ironically this footage came from the other side of the world.
The system in these clips is not electronic, it is electro mechanical. This technology existed long before the invention of the electronic computer. The Harringay system was installed in 1930. In some cases I have edited the original video to get different views of the same equipment into one clip.
The eighth video is of Hialeah racetrack at Miami and the Julius Totalisator which was installed there in 1932. It shows images of the crowds, a race running, Julius Tote ticket issuing machines, the tote mainframe as well as infield and outfield indicators.
Tim.wmv (1.3Mb)A Julius Ticket Issuing Machine in action
TIM Streaming link
plceaddr.wmv (1.3Mb)The place pool shaft adders
Place Adder Streaming link
fcastadd.wmv (1.2Mb)The forecast pool adders
Forecast Adder Streaming link
scanners.wmv (1.3Mb)The scanners/distributors
Scanners Streaming link
displays.wmv (1.7Mb)The public pool/odds displays
Displays Streaming link
pgt.wmv (1.6Mb)Place GT and forecast adder internals
PGT Streaming link
ovview.wmv (1.4Mb)Race increment / Overview
Overview Streaming link
hialeah1932.wmv (18.3Mb)Opening Day Hialeah Park 1932
Hialeah Streaming link
Further to the last video, titled Opening Day Hialeah Park 1932 there is additional information on the Hialeah system in the Automatic Totalisators in America chapter of this website as well as some images with associated text in the Photo Gallery Continued chapter.
Following are 6 YouTube links to video clips which are extractions from the raw footage of an interview conducted by Racing Queensland in the Eagle Farm Racing Museum in 2009 mainly about the Julius Tote that is the centrepiece of this museum. The system in these clips is a static display only however as these are video clips it seems appropriate to present them here.
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YouTube video clip 2
YouTube video clip 3
YouTube video clip 4
YouTube video clip 5
YouTube video clip 6
|1 Introduction to George Julius and his totalisators|
2 Interview continuation - Describing the Shaft Adders
3 Interview continuation - Describing the Odds Calculators
4 Interview continuation - Describing the Front End system
5 Interview continuation - Describing the Ticket Issuing Machines
6 Interview continuation - Discussing the PDP11 system that replaced the Julius tote
There is another link in the links page of this website to a British Pathe Website video clip showing what looks like a J5 TIM in operation in Sydney as well as a drum type shaft adder in action. The link can be found here titled The British Pathe Website.
There is another source of video of a working Julius totalisator. The film was shot in 1935. It is titled New tote for Randwick punters. It is available from the National Film and Sound Archive web site. The title number is 187881. The production company is Cinesound Productions. You may be able to attain a private copy of this. It is not possible to attain copyright approval to show this video at the present time.
When you visit the National Film and Sound Archive web site hover on the Collection menu bar option and select Search the collection from the drop down list. Next enter totalisator spelt with an s not a z in the Search for dialogue box and click on the SEARCH button. Finally click on the title SPORT. NEW TOTE FOR RANDWICK PUNTERS
|Technology to listen to|
|Electronic Totalisators II The characteristics of Electronic Totalisators.|
In the machine room of an electro mechanical totalisator there is motion, constant motion, and noise. With betting in progress, the constant chatter of the escapements blends with the purring of the counters and the low rumble of the drives to give a quite characteristic sound. This sound, both in intensity and pitch, indicates to the experienced totalisator operator, even more clearly than his eyes, the state of the queues outside and the conditions around the selling houses. He scarcely needs a clock, so accurately is he able to predict from the betting pattern the time to the start of the next race. The equipment consists of row upon row of shafts and gears and escapement wheels and mechanical counters. At first sight it seems entirely mechanical as the electrical portions are buried deep inside.
With the smaller "counter tote" using electromagnetic counters, the pattern changes to that of a telephone exchange. There is the click of the relays and the clack of the counters as the bets pile up. One is still left with the impression of a mechanical device with the moving counters and manual operations.
However, the position changes entirely when we go to an Electronic Totalisator. The machine room consists of one or more rows of silent steel cabinets. Lights blink continually on the front panels of the cabinets indicating the progress of betting. Every ninety seconds new odds ripple along the boards and with a staccato burst the high speed printer spews out another page of updated odds and pool figures. Otherwise all is silent and the lights blink on. The operators move quietly about, occasionally flipping a switch or pushing a button to stop betting or calculate dividends or complete some similar, but normally laborious, task in the blink of an eye.
Neville Mitchell made an audio tape in 2003, about the workings of these electro mechanical systems, for Bob Doran and Bob Moran (yes two Bobs, one Doran one Moran) both intensely interested in the mechanics and restoration of these systems and having an interest in George Julius and his company Automatic Totalisators. I have included a couple of transcribed extracts here as they can be well visualised in the above video clips. Before I proceed just a bit of frivolous diversion. How do two people with names that differ by one letter only, both become so interested in a man George Julius and his invention? I have often pondered about this. How about this frivolity! Bob Doran and Bob Moran differ by one letter. One name has D where the other has M providing two letters. Take D and skip two letters in the alphabet towards M and you get G. Take M and skip 2 letters towards G and you get J. Now, G and J put together G.J. ... hmmm ... George Julius! Now G and J are separated by two characters in the alphabet H and I. Now what do we have? Hi George Julius. How could they help but be drawn into this subject together? Neville's transcribed extracts are presented under the following two headings:
|The Mystique of these machines|
|Technology to shake to|
After seeing the image I have added to this text Neville sent the following information on 13/1/2010
Yes, the drum adders pictured in the clip are very similar to the adders I re-installed in Bangkok in October 1969. They were used to indicate tickets sold, an odd way of showing the betting "Odds'. The building was a box like construction on steel pylons several metres high under the stand in the Public area of the track. When the betting was as full speed as it was most of the time, the erratic stop start action of the drums caused the building to "shake". The drive to the adders was a 10 hp universal electric motor with a simple field current speed controller, which we had set at an optimum shaft speed.
I did have photo's of this installation, but my camera was lost when my tourist bus overturned near the airport, I was unhurt but the camera disappeared in the chaos after the accident.
|One Manpower Backup|
Neville Mitchell sent me an email on 15 January 2004 which contained the following anecdote:
Did I ever tell you that at Flemington the win place tote could be run with a power shortage. The auxiliary power supply could supply enough power to run the betting circuits, but not enough to run the adder drive motor[s], so a hatch was removed from the floor exposing a wide drive belt, a man would stand on the belt and work it like a treadmill energising the adder input shafts, thus keeping the tote running. Funny how some of the things like the above anecdote come to mind. I was told about this on the day the Flemington tote was taken to the metal recyclers, and I was shown how it worked by Alf Schloeffel [Nick named "snifter" because he always had a runny nose]. Alf went to Melbourne in 1936 for 6 weeks for the installation of Flemington, and was still there in 1975.
In April 2019, after reading Neville's comment above, Peter Nelson added the following comments relating to Alf:
Alf told me whilst in Melbourne his Father passed away. The company flew him home on the plane via Canberra with the Melbourne politicians from Essendon Airport, he returned to Melbourne on the train. After a couple of months Alf asked the boss Mr. Bill Dick if he could go home to Sydney as his Mother needed help with the shop she and Alf's father ran together. The reply from the manager was wait a while until they had finished the install at Pakenham or Mornington race clubs, I believe the team was installing the Mentone system at this time.In May 2019 Peter Collier wrote the following corrections:
He and Bob Davies lived in rooms in Mentone paid for by ATL. Alf a few weeks later asked to go home again, Mr Dick told him there was no work in the factory for him back in Sydney at this time, so he better stay a while longer. So in this time period, Bob and Alf met two Melbourne girls fell in love and eventually married, never returning home to Sydney.
I asked Alf one day, why didn't you just demand to go home, he told me this: In those days Peter, if the boss told you to do something you did as you were Bloody Well Told ...
Alf started his apprenticeship with ATL on the 15th of May 1925 at the old Alice street factory; he and Bob Davies, Alf Pople, Gordon Collier, Fred Berry and Joe Waddington worked after retirement for a number of years to assist with keeping the old system going, until the new J18 terminals running on the new PDP11 system was completed. Alf smoked all his life, Camel and Menthol cigarettes he always carried both, ate a sugar bag of the wrong foods most days, he described his favourite lunch to me as Best Butter and Ham sandwiches with lashings of butter, followed by a nice piece of cake, a large mug of tea with sugar and worked hard all his life. Alf was a fun chap, skinny and he lived in good health for 84 years.
The note about one manpower backup is not factually correct. There was always enough power for the adders. They did lift the floor and treadmill the belt using it in an emergency if all power had failed, to keep tension on all the adders so that the clutches coupling the escapements would transfer all the bets to the counter so that they could get an accurate read.When Neville read Peter's comment about the use of the treadmill, he replied:
It was a rare occurrence as the 120v motor generator set had an automatic failover to a diesel driven generator and if that had failed everything would stop. The diesel generator was always running on a raceday and there was a staff member sitting in the generator room watching the meters to ensure the voltage was in spec just in case it was required.
Also Gordon Collier did not work after retirement.
Alf went to Melbourne in 1936 for 6 weeks for the installation of Flemington to provide support for the Caulfield Cup.
I was shown the trapdoor by the two Alfs one Saturday morning and told about its use as a treadmill. It was not demonstrated to me.The second Alf referred to in Neville's comment is Alf Pople mentioned in Peter Nelson's comments.
To find out more about the Harringay Julius Tote shown in many of the video clips above, read Charles Norrie's excellent article titled The Harringay Greyhound Stadium Totalisator and George Alfred Julius
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